Richard Bandler Interview by Ronald Amsler 1/4
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Richard Bandler Interview by Ronald Amsler 1/4
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Yvescorbeil4life says:
April 28, 2012 at 2:37 am (UTC -4)
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Bandler found out how to imitate the skills of amazing people It;’s not for nothing that Milton Erickson disliked him. He knew the personality of Bandler . He is a self-absorbed guru who did achieve some impressive skills but he is not a sincere teacher he is a narcissistic and I was fascinated with him years ago but the more tapes and more seminar and live shows you see the more you get to know what he is about,.Every anecdote is tainted with self absorption.
whicheverwayable says:
April 28, 2012 at 3:11 am (UTC -4)
Trust me, the techniques you learned aren’t NLP. I’ve seen so much of this from NLP gurus and practitioners, it’s just other psychological techniques rehashed to sell. You have my respect for helping people, but people like Richard Bandler don’t because they are just in this for the money, it astounds me what he comes out with, like all scientists are stupid etc. Most of what works in NLP is stuff that is already known from the fields of psychology he criticises.
rainwilds says:
April 28, 2012 at 3:48 am (UTC -4)
Nothing new in the sense that if you do your research you’ll find that NLP is just a combination of ancient teachings of occultism. You forget that humans have existed for ages.
cheeseburgerwalrus2 says:
April 28, 2012 at 4:00 am (UTC -4)
- “nothing new here?”
he’s the guy that invented NLP. I use his techniques with hypnosis clients and I can name at least a dozen ppl who are now long term non-smokers, saving 150-300 dollars per month because I’ve used some of the techniques he mentioned in one of his videos. Oh yeah, and the ppl who no longer have phobias, that’s another God send, too.
Thanks Richard Bandler, I appreciate what I’ve learned by practicing the suggestions you make. So do my clients.
rainwilds says:
April 28, 2012 at 4:07 am (UTC -4)
Yeah I totally agree. Nothing new here. My intuition tells me he’s a shark.
whicheverwayable says:
April 28, 2012 at 4:14 am (UTC -4)
regarding helping people, there is much more evidence for success with schools such as positive psychology etc, this is because Bandler has stated that we can’t measure NLP being that it is the structure of subjective reality. A lot of social science deals with subjective reality with the same issue yet the outcomes are still measured objectively. This should ring the alarm bells of anyone with a vested interest in NLP yet doesn’t seem to concern people. NLP is commerical
whicheverwayable says:
April 28, 2012 at 4:43 am (UTC -4)
I have used NLP for years and still use it to this day, however after ten years I have slowly realised that a lot of what Bandler and Co say is overhyped nonsense and full of factual errors. What i’m saying isn’t that the tools of NLP don’t have success, but they can be explained far better using other sciences such as neuroscience, linguistics, cognitive psychology etc. Many tools focus on realigning cognitive bias which has been studied since the 30′s…….
awakenthefelixwithin says:
April 28, 2012 at 4:53 am (UTC -4)
@whicheverwayable … (cont.) It is FAR less important to understand what’s in a cure than it is to ‘administer’ that cure to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible, ensuring that we know it works and works safely. A viewpoint focused on anything but curing the patient as a primary focus is useless; the specific working of these things is useless, since the moment we have a clear causal relationship, we can get to helping people.
awakenthefelixwithin says:
April 28, 2012 at 5:42 am (UTC -4)
@whicheverwayable It’s also true that whilst Bandler is highly disdainful of the psychiatric community, it’s fair: there IS a massive problem with the mainstream mental health/wellbeing community. Imagine a dry cleaner, gym, or any other business at all that took money for years before delivering a result, if it did at all? Whilst NLP typically doesn’t fill in what’s between A and Z, talented practitioners make sure that Z is a great result, and are too busy healing people to worry about B – Y..
awakenthefelixwithin says:
April 28, 2012 at 5:57 am (UTC -4)
@whicheverwayable I’m genuinely curious as to where these things were discovered prior to NLP – can you please provide some sources? I can think of some things that are in a few places, such as basic “map is not the territory” etc, but submodalities? Timeline therapy? Matrix therapy? Deep state repatterning? Systematically-organised, standardised hypnotic language? If science is as important to you as it appears to be, then please be scientific and provide sources.
whicheverwayable says:
April 28, 2012 at 6:48 am (UTC -4)
Overhyped nonsense. This all existed before NLP was invented. If you listen carefully to what he is saying and understand the terminology it is all gibberish and is full of errors about psychology. He over generalises, he makes good points about motivations, phobias and education but non of this is new, he disdains just to market his ‘cure’ as being more effective. Don’t be fooled, NLP tools do work, but can be explained far better by science than NLP.
JustBeWell says:
April 28, 2012 at 7:26 am (UTC -4)
Excellent video, myself and my colleagues worldwide have been using these principles successfully with clients for many years, they work.
Bhodisatvas says:
April 28, 2012 at 7:34 am (UTC -4)
Bandler..great teacher, terrible dresser!!
But then again..is he dressing like that to subconciously influence the watcher to go do something? You never know with him lol
NoelCasumpang says:
April 28, 2012 at 7:48 am (UTC -4)
Richard can Talk!!!
hypnoramblings says:
April 28, 2012 at 7:54 am (UTC -4)
Great interview with Dr Richard Bandler
Bye bye
The English Sisters
JiggaNiggaFigga says:
April 28, 2012 at 8:53 am (UTC -4)
nlp is another commercial brain washing-money making machine, wherever you go you’ll see people in trance, world needs Dehypnosis and more conscious people
etrusca777 says:
April 28, 2012 at 9:10 am (UTC -4)
some of it is ok, but how come this man looks so ill himself? isnt that according to him, everybody can change as much as they like?…
ARyttz says:
April 28, 2012 at 9:29 am (UTC -4)
@region1111
The PE material isn’t NLP, it’s a technique resulting from the methodology. Saying NLP is unethical as the result of that is like saying all conventional psychology is bullshit because of primal scream therapy, or that an orange tree is bullshit because somebody grafted a branch from an apple tree onto it.
I like my sanitized definition; it helps me cope with the atrocities I’m committing on a daily basis in learning how to draw or, god forbid, write an entertaining speech.
creativebollocks says:
April 28, 2012 at 9:55 am (UTC -4)
To help people, sometimes you have to inspire them. Richard is clearly charismatic and inspiring. He can stand and talk for hours..wow! BUT when you get uninspirational NLPers who have no charisma and are beardy-weirdies, can they do as well as Richard can?? I doubt it.
region1111 says:
April 28, 2012 at 10:07 am (UTC -4)
ok, for example, eye accessing cues are completely made up (ie bullshit) – eg. the idea that a person looks down and to the right when making a kinesthetic representation of a concept.
And in fact – the idea that people think in either visual, auditory, or kinesthetic mode – that’s completely made up. I could go on and on…
Djinnmeister says:
April 28, 2012 at 10:50 am (UTC -4)
Bullshit when done by who? I find that when someone says NLP is bullshit is usually someone who doesn’t have the language skill set. So, elaborate. tell me your 60%.
region1111 says:
April 28, 2012 at 11:01 am (UTC -4)
Feh, whenever nlp’s bullshit or unethical practices are called into question, you get a stock-response sanitized definition.
When people are trying to re-enact bandler’s nlp-hypnotic technique (which is pure fabrication btw) from “persuasion engineering” to get people to go into a trance and sign a contract to give away rights or large amounts of money, I’m sure they’re thinking “NLP is essentially just finding ways to replicate what works in a given field!”
ARyttz says:
April 28, 2012 at 11:22 am (UTC -4)
@region1111
No, NLP isn’t “everything.” Not even anything like everything.
Good guess, though; A lot of so-called “gurus” do spout that self-serving crap. It’s much easier to get butts in seminar seats if you’re teaching attendees the seven-step key to Life, the Universe and Everything.
NLP is *essentially* just finding ways to replicate what works in a given field. Usually through experimenting and/or just asking particularly skilled folks questions and trying out their strategy.
region1111 says:
April 28, 2012 at 12:11 pm (UTC -4)
“from somebody who’s realized that NLP is neither a system nor a grab bag of tools.”
Right, let me guess, “NLP is everything”. Can you say brainwashed?
And everytime you try to NLP someone and they look at you like you’re fucked up, just keep telling yourself “the technology works, I just need to practice more!”
lafreauq says:
April 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm (UTC -4)
they do it you know. I know whatchu mean about it being outrageous. I’m writing for a company and i just found out they sent their staff for NLP. Guess what’ the business is, Financial Advisory.
TVagogoisGOD says:
April 28, 2012 at 1:11 pm (UTC -4)
Richard Bandler MURDERED Corine Christensen with a .357 Magnum revolver ? ? ? WTF!!!
Do the research – Read “THE BANDLER METHOD” by Frank Clancy and Heidi Yorkshire. It’s online and free.
TVagogoisGOD says:
April 28, 2012 at 1:13 pm (UTC -4)
Richard Bandler MURDERED Corine Christensen with a .357 Magnum revolver ? ? ? WTF!!!
Do the research - Read “THE BANDLER METHOD” by Frank Clancy and Heidi Yorkshire. It’s online and free.
bushidolovecock says:
April 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm (UTC -4)
I’ve heard this theory about words act as 7% but it still doesn’t sound right. I can understand tone and body plays a big amount but not too that ratio.
Mu5clehead says:
April 28, 2012 at 1:36 pm (UTC -4)
dude it’s a skill, haha
just like speed reading…. learning a new language
and plus, youd never know if it was used on you
Mu5clehead says:
April 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm (UTC -4)
well… NLP should only be used in business man…
i donno about you, but using nlp in dating is stupid, unless you’re a player
nlp obviously CANNOT help one find true love
i only took up nlp cuz my communications skills were pretty bad in the past
Mu5clehead says:
April 28, 2012 at 2:59 pm (UTC -4)
im a fitness expert and a high school student
ive been using nlp ever since i was 15
these NLP techniques are necessary when i give presentations and seminars about fitness and nutrition
Mu5clehead says:
April 28, 2012 at 3:19 pm (UTC -4)
lol i use NLP in school and at work
but i never use it on my girlfriend
and plus, she knows i study NLP thoroughly
JMfrac says:
April 28, 2012 at 3:53 pm (UTC -4)
That was my attitude in high school when I saw people dropping out. Less competition for high paying jobs.
However, if the general population does not enjoy learning… Well, that’s not good for my economy.
Did you know (south) Korean girls think nerds are totally hot? They are going to have a ton of smart babies who will grow up to take over the world. We’ll be too busy with north Korea to see it coming.
Mu5clehead says:
April 28, 2012 at 4:01 pm (UTC -4)
lol it’s good that way
that way you and me can become smarter than the general public as it is, haha
JMfrac says:
April 28, 2012 at 4:14 pm (UTC -4)
I bet its because people don’t come onto youtube to learn.
theteacher010 says:
April 28, 2012 at 5:13 pm (UTC -4)
Just what i needed, thanks!
HomesteadProvocateur says:
April 28, 2012 at 5:43 pm (UTC -4)
Excellent! I’m very good with controlling my tone, it is fun experimenting with.
Richey716 says:
April 28, 2012 at 6:02 pm (UTC -4)
thanks for sharing this info.
SASMOUNTAINTROOPER says:
April 28, 2012 at 6:34 pm (UTC -4)
Gr8 vids, why are your views so low ?!!
ImanKia says:
April 28, 2012 at 6:35 pm (UTC -4)
You’re very kind. I’m sure gonna enjoy the reading. Thanks a lot.
nlpelation says:
April 28, 2012 at 6:36 pm (UTC -4)
Transformations Bandler & Grinder
Sleight of Mouth Dilts
Hypnotism A Case Book Erickson & Rossi
How Real is Real – Paul Watslazwick
Science and Sanity Alfred Korzybski
nlpelation says:
April 28, 2012 at 6:56 pm (UTC -4)
The Structure of Magic Volume 1 Bandler & Grinder
The Patterns of Milton H. Erickson M.D. Volume 1 Bandler & Grinder
Reframing Bandler & Grinder
nlpelation says:
April 28, 2012 at 7:34 pm (UTC -4)
Krasner, A.M, The Wizard Within,
L. Michael Hall & Barbara Belnap, The Sourcebook of Magic ISBN 1-899836-22-5.
Shelly Rose Sharvay Words that Change Minds.
nlpelation says:
April 28, 2012 at 7:40 pm (UTC -4)
Hi Imankia,
Im glad you found it interesting. Of the books Ive read, these are the most useful.
Magic of NLP Demystified: A Pragmatic Guide to Communication & Change. Pucelik and Lewis
ImanKia says:
April 28, 2012 at 8:33 pm (UTC -4)
Very interesting! thank you for the post. Do you have any book to suggest if I want to know more about it? I guess we are living in a world that we should really be aware of these things
nlpelation says:
April 28, 2012 at 8:39 pm (UTC -4)
In sales and politics these techniques are used. Being aware of them can make you less likely to be manipulated, to be manipulative only depends on the persons intention.
I use these techniques in education and with clients my intention is purely focused on their benefit.
bradbavarde says:
April 28, 2012 at 9:25 pm (UTC -4)
Very interesting. But are we teaching people to be authentic in commenication through these techniques? In social situations, a fake can easily come off as insincere or worse manipulative. No one likes that. Sales and public speaking are different contexts perhaps more appropriate to these techniques. (also politics!)
nlpelation says:
April 28, 2012 at 9:32 pm (UTC -4)
It is important to point out that the figures of 55%, 38% and 7% are of what the unconscious mind understands and Ive not come across any research that suggests Europeans are different from that. I would be very interested in learning more; could you direct me to some studies or reports on that? Or even your personal experience?
nlpelation says:
April 28, 2012 at 10:01 pm (UTC -4)
Hi tzapinaru21, thank you for your feed back; its interesting youd say that as in that particular video I also demonstrated Anchoring. Anchoring is predominantly based on the work of Ivan Pavlov who, as you know, was born in Ryazan, Russia (not USA or an English countries) – although some people from the USA tend to site William Twitmire with the Stimulus Response